March 22, 2007
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Now here is something interesting to chew on.
"I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else." --C. S. Lewis
If the sun did not rise in the sky we could not see anything in the physical world. If the son (Jesus) did not rise from the dead we could not see anything in the spiritual world.
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um... wow. yeah, I definitely mentioned Houghton as in Houghton College, home of freezing cold winters and long mud seasons. =D I'm in the class of '08, bio/premed with minors in music and writing. Good to "meet" you! Here's the big question... were you an East girl or Brookside?
I remember in my pagan days how I thought that I was in control of my universe, little chance of that. I certainly did not make the sun rise, my heart beat, the cycle of the seasons or any of the other events occur. It is so true that God is there if we open our eyes and mind to Him, and realize the truth. And often the truth is so apparent because of what isn't. If there was not day, there would be perpetual night.
Heather
Hmm... yeah, Fancher's still around, but Gayadeo isn't. And we only have one dining hall, convieniently located in the campus center - right next to East. Yup, Lambein's rooms are still alot nicer than East's in my humble opinion.
(dorm rivalry? naw!) Oh, and better yet, East was recently christened "Gilette" Hall. As in, disposable razors. It's great for picking on them. 
Initiation was banned at some point in the past. I don't remember the story precisely, but some guy got pretty badly hurt and had to leave school for awhile to recover. Freshman are still fun to make fun of, though... and befriend. Honestly, they seem the most open to making friends, not surprisingly, and there are some pretty awesome freshman recently.
Interesting Lewis quote... though I have to say, sometimes it's still difficult to discern things in the spiritual world. I need practice that.
I was there when the Campus Center opened. There, now you know I am a dinosaur. Gillette Hall? That must be for Frieda Gillette, a history teacher. I only had her for one course for which she especially came out of retirement to teach. She had Dr. Katherine Lindley help her. It was "History of the Far East." I wrote my little heart out on a term paper and Dr. G only gave me a C. She just didn't understand me. Haha! Now Dr. Lindley, she was a teacher!! She was the only history teacher who ever taught me history in a coherent manner.
Too bad about that initiation injury. A stupid way to get hurt. Come to think of it, I remember being made to do a group roll down the ski slope and thinking that it was rather dangerous. When it was all done I had no voice for three days from yelling so much. "75 Best Alive - Out the Door with 74!" I still have my shirt. But no kitchen garbage smeared across my mouth or toothpaste and cottage cheese in my hair, please. After it was all over we had "Honor Court" where we could get the Juniors to do awful things to the worst of the sophs. I think they had their hair done up in small braids and then had something gooey poured over their heads. I also remember several individuals sitting on buckets of ice. It was all quite a memorable affair.
The next year there was a new rule that you couldn't put anything on anyone's body. Hey Cush, are you listening to this? Add some memories!!
Hmmm... The way you were rather factual about God being outside of time interested me. I had a very interesting conversation with a prof about that topic a little while ago, and I have to say that there are some tough logic problems that would arise if God is outside of time... Of course, like any good debate, there are some problems on both sides. Can you give any Biblical references/reasons to support that idea?
Let's look at it from the aspect of dimensions. It is impossible for two things to occupy the exact same space. Think of two points. They cannot occupy the same place, but if you add a dimension they can both be on a line. In one dimension two lines cannot exist because there is only room for one, but in the additional dimension of a plane they can be accommodated quite nicely. Two or more planes can be accommodated if we add a third dimension to get space. Now for the really fun part. Think of two balls in space that cannot occupy the same place. Place one on the table in front of you. Add a fourth dimension of time and remove one ball and replace it with the other. Seen from the fourth dimension, both balls are in the same place. I thought of that in the bathtub, eureka. Ok, God, I see how time is the fourth dimension... What's the fifth? "Spirit." Now I have to think about what that means, because God did not explain it.
Is spirit eternal, outside of time? It would seem so. Bible references. There are probably many that mention God's unchangable eternal no-beginning-no-end nature. I should look some of them up. Or think about what God calls Himself at the burning bush, "I AM." Jesus also got the Pharisees riled when he said, "Before Abraham was, I AM." This is tenseless, simultaneous and not restricted by time.
Another fun mind game: Let's represent time as a line. Use something like a pencil that you can move around. Now put the points of your birth, your salvation and your death on it. Turn the pencil so it is pointed at your eye. (Just point!!) The three events will overlap each other and appear to be taking place simultaneously. Maybe that is how God sees time from one of His dimensions. That's why God knows the past and the future, because He is in all of them.
This is all very interesting, but I have never really found anyone interested in discussing it. What logic problems result if God is outside of time? Did Jesus have a hard time dealing with time as God incarnated? He knew what would happen, but he still had to wait in faith.
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